IIS 5 & IIS 6
Install IIS without OS CD To Use "Add/Remove Windows Components" ?
Last post May 11, 2011 02:13 PM by tomkmvp
Apr 04, 2011 09:04 PM|davebrigg|LINK
I hope that one of your very smart Techs or users can HELP with this mess.
I just purchased a refurbished Dell Optiplex GX280 with XP Pro because my home version does not have IIS available to help administer my sites etc. The recycler downloads from a special Microsoft server XP Pro SP3 with Office 2007. I had no idea when they
refused to give me a OS CD that the needed components were not installed! "Help Save The Planet" and money , is my purpose but what do I do now? Is it possible to install the extra components? If not then how do I work around this situation and install IIS
at the very minimum. Also, is it possible to upgrade to IIS 6 from the standard IIS 5.1?
XP Pro SP 3
Install IIS without a CD
Dell Optiplex GX280
Apr 05, 2011 01:00 AM|HCamper|LINK
FYI This is not an IIS Net Forum or IIS Server issue typically this would be handled in Windows Client Forum
or Windows Install Forum. I will give "Best Effort" answer for the questions.
For this question "Is it possible to upgrade to IIS 6 from the standard IIS 5.1" no you can not upgrade
to IIS 6 for Windows XP Professional intel win32 X86.
The Windows 2003 Professional X64 / XP Professional X64 editions do have IIS 6.0.
Before doing any changes you should get several tools:
Get the Nirsoft Product Key Tool and find the Windows Product Key save the information & write it down.
Next get the MGA Diagnostic Tool from Microsoft Genuine Support run the tool see
if the Windows is Activated and matches the Product Key from a
legal / activated Windows XP Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3
will be required to install the missing components.
Failure to validate the Product Key or Windows Genuine checks can lead to a
system or condition that would require reinstalling the Windows XP and possible loss of any data or files.
Do not do any of the install or upgrades below if the Product Key does not match or fails the MGA genuine tests.
If you can not resolve the Product Key and Activation tests go back to the Refubisher and request a proper OEM
Retail Key for your Windows XP Pro system.
To resolve the missing CD and install componenets you can download the full-stand-alone cd iso
from Microsoft Download Center for Service Pack 3. You then can use the CD to XCOPY
the Windows-XP-Service-Pack3.exe file to your hard disk.
Alternate the Windows-SP-Service-Pack.exe can be downloaded and placed in folder and you use the extract commands and methods.
Once you have the Service-Pack3.exe in a folder you can run Service-Packe3.exe /? which will display help.
If you look at the help display there are command switches to extract the Service-Pack3.exe only and to another folder
on the system the best choice would be to this new folder C:\I386 . After extract has completed you then can use the
add & remove section of the Control Panel to change Windows Features.
When you select the IIS Server,World Wide Web components to add to your current system you will get an Error Dialog for where
to find the necessay install files. The Dialog from Features Add & remove has a browse selection use the C:\I386 location you created that
has the missing files. You may have to keep selecting the C:\I386 folder during the installation as the installer expands the files
and looks for the next one to install. If you have problems check the C:\Windows\iis6.log for errors.
If you need at guide to Windows XP Service Pack install,Slip Stream,Unattend settings search the msnfn org site they
have a pdf version for reference.
I hooe this helps,
Apr 07, 2011 07:13 PM|davebrigg|LINK
Thank you Martin, I wanted to do so before any more time passed because I have been pulling my hair out trying to follow your instructions with the xcopy and 30 attempts later I have concluded that a different approach is worth trying. First, the download
size was much different than ststed (lower: 160 MB compressed and 380 extracted with 7 zip instead of 544 MB for the ISO and the extracted size was the same with the .exe version. Both had 1400 files with errors and marked as broken but upon examination, none
were among the many missing .htm files so I kept cancelling the ones I could not find and finally it no longer allowed me to do so and demanded the XP Pro CD and automatically exited the installation process. I have not yet downloaded the pdf that you mentioned
but I intend to do so and also see if I can find a full CD from or through the other 2 forums that you mentioned.
PS. I already had the Nirsoft 100 on a flash drive and the MGE active x worked just fine. Thank you again for your assistance!
Apr 07, 2011 08:14 PM|HCamper|LINK
Just so you so do not waste time you can not use 7-zip or other archive to to extract the files.
The only reliable method is use the deployment, installer command switches.
The extraction also handles how the layout of files / folders is reconstructed.
FYI Thte Service pack contains the Pro / Home editon files as a Tree of Parallel folders this is where 7-zip gets confused.
The Windows Service Pack files do integrity checks as they process extraction into a slipsteam or to a new folder.
You may find that looking at Axcel 16 site at mgdx.com of use when doing your install / updates.
Apr 07, 2011 10:06 PM|davebrigg|LINK
I am sorry to bother you again but mgdx.com takes you to a Red Hat Linux test page with mention of Apache Server. Did you mean MDGx which is a big site for Windows but I searched for Axcel 16 and did not find what you were referring to?
Apr 07, 2011 11:13 PM|HCamper|LINK
Sorry my bad for the typo for the location.
Yes, The site is for Windows and not Red Hat Linux.
The site is "MDGx MAX Speed WinDOwS Tricks + Secrets Files" is the title of the home page.
the Windows XP Service Pack 3 page "Windows XP Post-SP3 Updates + Fixes" page has information
on command switches and deployment.
I hope this clears up the confusion.
Apr 09, 2011 05:56 PM|davebrigg|LINK
Martin, after arriving at the page at MGDx / Windows XP Post-SP3 Updates + Fixes, I tried the /extract command and went back to xcopy and tried it a couple more times. In the mean while "Microsoft Answers" suggested that I buy a replacement CD from Dell,
which I checked into but they want $20. Lower on the MGDx page, I found that there was a link to buy a replacement CD through Microsoft so I did a comparison and ordered the CD from Microsoft at half the price. I have not given up on learning the knowledge
that you suggested but For $10, why not! I can download and update drivers, bios etc. from Dell for free to make up for any extras not included in the MS. CD.
I just updated a previous post concerning the IIS 5.1, IIS 7.5 express and added an explanation on why I made the decisions that I did.
Thank you again
Apr 10, 2011 07:07 PM|HCamper|LINK
That is good news,
May 09, 2011 12:44 AM|waynec444|LINK
I have read all the above posts and not sure if it will help my situation. First, ALL of the files that Microsoft wants to reinstall IIS to my XP Professional are NOT, I repeat, NOT in the files in either the stand alone version of the ServicePack3 installer,
in the downloaded CD image files, nor on the legal Upgrade CD. They are just not anywhere to be found.
I have a legal copy of XP Professional. When I upgraded from Windows 98 ALL the files were available to install IIS in XP and I did so (automatically and without any extra work or hassle). It worked fine for years until a while back it stopped working.
In the belief that the IIS files may have become corrupted, and making sure I had my XP Upgrade disk which I would need for reinstallation of IIS, I removed the IIS installation from my system. I assumed that since IIS was installed when XP was installed
I would have no problem just installing it again.
What I do not understand is WHY several files necessary to re-install IIS are no longer on my system, not in the stand alone SP3 program nor in the SP3 CD image file. I paid for the professional version of XP so I could use IIS and am very frustrated that
I cannot re-install this needed program without hours of work and tons of hassle. I guess I could pay Microsoft support around $60 (if it hasn't gone up by now) and waste many hours of their and my time but why should I have to. It is available in XP Professional
and I have a right to use it without any further cost (or hours of wasted time and much hassle).
Where can I find the several needed files and why cannot I re-install it without the hassle involved?
There must be a simple answer to this situation but I have not seen it yet.
May 09, 2011 12:58 AM|HCamper|LINK
The Windows XP Professional CD has a directory called I386 that is where all the files are located for IIS Server install.
The I386 folder is also duplicated on the CD Upgrade CD for Service Pack 3.
All most all the files in the I386 folder are compressed and contain _filename as part of the layout.
If you check the Web Site MDGX com Windows Tips and tricks site information for how to fix the
sysoc Manager Files (inf files) that contain the installer information.
May 09, 2011 05:44 AM|The Nountaineer|LINK
Martin, I saw the post by Wayne and thought that I should ad my 2 cents worth. First , if you remember all of the trouble that I went to to download both the ISO image as well as the ENU.EXE version which were only for the SP3 alone and did not contain the
XP Pro OS. The I386 from the SP3 did not contain the same file set as the original OS so I was not able to find all of the necessary files to install the IIS as well as the other components. I finally ordered the CD from Microsoft through the link that I
found on the MDGx website and when it arrived, it was only the SP3! I was no better off than before. I finally contacted Dell's special department and ordered the complete XP Pro with SP3 and it solved my problem for about $12. The SP3 does have in the I386
enough drivers to install the fax and some other features but not the IIS 5.1! Microsoft will not sell replacement Operating Systems. It is an OEM situation that requiresd me to go to the original manufacturer for the OS.
If Wayne still has the upgrade OS then he should have everything that he needs in the I386, even if he has to do it manually for some reason which is very laborious.
May 09, 2011 07:48 AM|HCamper|LINK
Yes it is good to put in two cents.
The Windows XP Pro install disk has the required I368 folder so it can be used for the install.
If you XCOPY the from CD I386 folder to folder like C:\WXP3.
The WIndows-XP-SP3 has command to extract the files
use the -x extract command to the C:\WXP3 and the installer will integrate the files from Orginal to latest version.
You then if the inf files are not corrupt run the install from the C:\WXP3 folder.
May 11, 2011 02:13 PM|tomkmvp|LINK
The SP3 does have in the I386 enough drivers to install the fax and some other features but not the IIS 5.1! Microsoft will not sell replacement Operating Systems. It is an OEM situation that requiresd me to go to the original manufacturer for the OS.
Correct! You need to get an original disk here.