IIS 7 & IIS 8
UI & Remote Management
IIS7 Remote Admin Manager Connections
Last post May 02, 2011 06:23 AM by HCamper
Apr 29, 2011 03:59 AM|LINK
I am new to this forum.. looking forward to hearing from you!
(FYI: I use Windows Vista Business ver 6.0.6001, (x86 based PC) with Service Pack 1 installed, the Internet Information Services 7.0 Management Console installed.)
I have installed the IIS7 Remote Admin Manager on my PC, and have been able to successfully connect to firstdomain.com. This hosting resides on server #1. When I connected I could see a full list of features both under the asp.net & IIS
groups. I was able to use the "HTTP redirect" feature, and set it up, and even test. It all works perfectly.
However, when I try to do the same thing with the seconddomain.com site (at the same hosting company), but which resides on server #2, it doesn't work the same way. I can connect, but all I can see is one feature... the URL Rewrite Feature
listed under the IIS group.
So, how can that be? Within the same PC, the same IIS Manager application, I have two connections, one works perfectly, the other shows only one feature?? The only difference appears to be that the connections go to different servers within
the same hosting company. Is it possible that the seconddomain.com on server #2 just isn't set up correctly to be managed by IIS7 Remote Admin Manager? Or doesn't have any features installed? How can I found out?
And also.. this is going to sound like such a newbie... but how do you disconnect the connections?
I have the two connections open in the II7 remote manager.. but now I want to exit out. I don't see a 'logoff' button, or a disconnect option. It does give me the option to "delete connection". Is that what I am supposed to do? I am afraid that the delete
will actually delete something important, rather than just disconnect me. What happens if I just close the IIS Manager window?
Any advice will be welcome!
Apr 29, 2011 05:48 AM|LINK
My guess is that you are not allowed to do anything except for URL Rewrite rules. Or in other words, the hosting company have not delegated administration for anything more than the URL Rewrite module. If that is correct or incorrect i cannot say, since
i do not know what they have choosen to allow. That's what i think is going on, that makes most sense.
To log off, you can simply close IIS Manager. That will close the connection. I think i remember another way as well, but i don't have anything to test on right now, and i may be remembering incorrectly.
Apr 29, 2011 07:15 AM|LINK
Thanks KristoferG, for your quick reply.
I had written to the Hosting Company's Tech Support about this problem, and this is what he said:
There are no issues with the IIS set up for your server, as you can see from the print screen all the required modules are on your IIS account. There seems to be some sort of client side issue where you cannot view the modules. You
may want to click on the show all button at the top of the screen and refer to Microsoft's documentation to see if your client maybe hiding the other modules for any reason.
Here is his screen-print of "seconddomain.com" (using the name from my previous post, but really is: optinest.com) as seen by the Tech Support when he connected to that site via IIS Manager. As you can see it shows all the icons I am looking for.
And here is my screen-print of the same site connection from my PC using IIS Manager:
As you can see, I only get the one module. Tech Support said to click on the "show all button" at the top.. but I don't have that option. Maybe because I don't have the same version of manager as he has? (I could upload the other site connection screen
print [firstdomain.com - ie: optimation.com) just to show you that I do get all the modules for the other site, but basically the image looks just like the one above, except it has all the modules that you see in the Tech Support's image.).
Do you see anything strange in my screen print? Do you think that the "client maybe hiding the other modules for any reason", as the TS guy suggested?
When you said: "... are not allowed to do anything except for URL Rewrite rules. Or in other words, the hosting company have not delegated administration for anything more than the URL Rewrite module.".. does the screen print of the Tech Support
people logging into the same site location with their own version of IIS manager negate the idea of not having delegated admin for other modules. Meaning if someone else can see those modules, then I should be able to also, right? So again, I am left with
it being my installation? With the confusing side that another connection works fine!
Do you have any further insights? (I will present your suggestion to TS, just in case I am wrong.)
Apr 29, 2011 07:50 AM|LINK
I don't know about their setup, so i don't know if this matter or not, but you are connecting to different servers.
Did they log on with your username and password?
Apr 29, 2011 08:22 AM|LINK
Hmmm... How do you know we are logged into different servers for the same site: optinest.com? (Where can you see that in the images?)
To answer your question, I think they would have to have logged in with my username & password, but I didn't give it to them, and I will check with them as soon as I finish typing here.
Actually your point made me see something I didn't notice before.. on the right hand side he has a section called: "Manage Web site" with a sub-header of "Browse Web Site".. which then lists all the versions of the URLs you can use & it's IP address, where
my connection to optinest.com does not.
However, I should have uploaded my screen print of my connection to the other site (optimation.com), as you can see that I do have that section with this connection:
So something is definitely wrong with my connect to optinest.com.. as this missing section for my connection to optinest.com appears to be client related!!! (and again, how can that be if I can get it on optimation.com connection!!!)
Apr 29, 2011 08:47 AM|LINK
Pardon my observation:
I have been looking at the Images and the thing that maybe of use is in the far Right and Bottom.
A) Image is the Tech Support which shows the server is at w05.winhost:8172 a Parent Server.
B) Image is this Post which shows the server is at w04.winhost:8172 a Parent Server.
It looks like for first-server you need to use w04 and for second-server you need to use w05.
The optinest and optimation are Children Born to Divorced Parent A and Parent B.
I could be wrong it just looks like an un-happy marriage.
Apr 29, 2011 09:14 AM|LINK
Thanks HCamper for your reply.
Ahhh... for a second there, I thought I had actually figured out the problem!!! But not to be.
I loved your analogy: "Children Born to Divorced Parent A and Parent B... it just looks like an un-happy marriage". :D. However, I don't think it is an unhappy marriage rather just next-door neighbors!
The two domains each have their own hosting package, and were purchased at separate times, and one has more space allocated than the other.. so I think it was either a matter of resources or sizing or luck that had them ending up on different servers (W05
vs W04). I am linking them up, in that I used "HTTP Redirect" on IIS7 Manager for the optimation.com's site, to redirect
www.optinest.com. And that is their only connection (outside of the fact that they are owned by the same person!)
So that doesn't really matter.. does it?
Apr 29, 2011 09:31 AM|LINK
Yes, it was the lower right.
I *think* that if you are not allowed to read the bindings, it will not show up any "browse links". It would be strange if it did, because the bindings is written out.
So i still think that the delegation is not set the same on both servers or your website.
Apr 29, 2011 09:54 AM|LINK
Thanks KristoferG, for persevering with me.
However... I don't think I understood anything that you just wrote *sigh*.
I think you are saying that I shouldn't be too surprised at not seeing the two missing sections on the right: "Manage Web site" section & "Action", because if I can't see the modules, then whatever the problem is, would naturally be effecting them too.
Meaning that since I can't see anything.. I can't browse or take action??
Am I correct in understanding your suggestion.. that it is a problem on the server side, and not my client installation?
I will update my ticket to Tech Support, and provide him with your ideas, and keep my fingers crossed!!
Apr 29, 2011 11:10 AM|LINK
Yes, the problem may be that they have not delegated this as well, and in that case you will not see it. It is not directly related to the other modules, but if they have missed to delegate one thing, they could have missed others as well. So that would
be on the server side, and what they have choosen to delegate.
I hope they can find the problem. It would however be very interesting if they logged on using your username and password. If it works, we can rule out most of the server side settings.