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  • 10-28-2008, 5:05 PM

    • jboch
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    IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    You can see IIS Smooth Streaming in action at http://www.SmoothHD.com.

    We'd love to hear your feedback on the technology and your viewing experience! Please use this thread to provide feedback so we can make the technology better going forward.

  • 10-28-2008, 10:18 PM In reply to

    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    I love the experience.  Is there any case studies done to show small / medium businesses and shared hosting type experiences?   Akami is the Walmart of CDN's.   Is this technology targeted for the very large content providers?

    Steve Schofield
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  • 11-01-2008, 8:18 AM In reply to

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    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

     hi everybody,

    i take the risk to drop a stupid question for my first post here:

    where can i download the smooth streaming plugin for ii7 ? Can t find it :'(

    thx for help

    best regards

     

  • 11-03-2008, 6:06 AM In reply to

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    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    Steve - thanks for the question. IIS Smooth Streaming is designed for both large-scale CDN scenarios and smaller-scale deployments. We'll be working to make sure the technology will work well in both for final release.

  • 11-03-2008, 6:09 AM In reply to

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    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    Hi nocomp - thanks for asking, but unfortunately the IIS Smooth Streaming extension is not available for download at this time. Please check back for release announcements as they become available.  

    Thanks, 

    --John

  • 11-03-2008, 6:12 AM In reply to

    • nocomp
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    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

     hi john,

    thx for the reply, do you know if there is any documentations available about the integration?

    Is it possible to participate to a beta tester program?

    best regards

    herve

  • 11-06-2008, 7:31 PM In reply to

    • kgbroce
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    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    I wanted to find out if Smooth Streaming will support Adobe Flash Player or will it only support Silverlight.  Thanks.

  • 11-06-2008, 7:44 PM In reply to

    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    It only supports Silverlight clients. Thanks.

    -Sam

    -Sam
  • 11-13-2008, 8:02 PM In reply to

    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    Looks pretty good.  Although still not quite as good as the Move Network plugin and encoding.  I noticed quite a lot of artifacting especially during quality level switchs between http://video.smoothhd.com/Media/AD_Streaming/NBA.ism/QualityLevels(1500000)/Fragments(video=3130120746)and http://video.smoothhd.com/Media/AD_Streaming/NBA.ism/QualityLevels(2000000)/Fragments(video=3267924804)also vertical movement cause distortion on the high action scenes.  But overall very nice! BTW, what version of Silverlight will this be supported in?  I don't see anything in the Silverlight media documentation about bit rate switching or how to control the quality switching ie.. what factors to base the switch on.  But maybe I'm missing something. 
    Thanks,

    Adam Smith

     

     

  • 11-13-2008, 8:16 PM In reply to

    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    Adam, thanks for the feedback.

    IIS Smooth Streaming is supported by Silverlight 2.0. There's a seperate managed code module running on top of Silverlight runtime that's doing the smooth streaming logic. The managed code module is automatically downloaded as a Silverlight XAP app.

    -Sam
  • 11-14-2008, 1:05 PM In reply to

    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    Will the managed code module be extensible?  How would we configure or override the logic to determine the switching?  There are many cases where we may want to restrict, or allow certaing behaiviours or capabilities.  For instance only allowing the hight bit rates only to premium subscribers.

    Will this be supported for Live events also? 

    How does the file chunking work?  Is that part of the encode/distribution process?   Or is IIS handling this similar to byte range requests?  Are their content management tools planned for managing the different encode profiles and the distribution of those files?

    Also, when is a beta planned?  I'm excited to get my hands on this stuff!

     Thanks!

    Adam

  • 11-14-2008, 4:41 PM In reply to

    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    You can use Microsoft Expression Encoder 2 SP1(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=A29BE9F9-29E1-4E70-BF67-02D87D3E556E&displaylang=en) to encode and generate the files that are needed for IIS Smooth Streaming. It also allows you to directly publish to IIS using WebDav. Along with the media files and server config files, Expression Encoder generates a XAP file that contains a sample implementation of the client side managed code module. Better yet, you can find the source code and Visual Studio solution/project file for the sample implementation in Expression Encoder's template directory. So with that, you can do whatever you want to plug in your own logic and build your own Silverlight player.

     The server module will be a future release of IIS Media Pack running on top of IIS 7.0. The current plan is to release it in Q1 2009.

    -Sam
  • 02-24-2009, 12:36 AM In reply to

    • jboch
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    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    The IIS Smooth Streaming Beta is now available. Please see the announcement for details, and use this thread to provide your feedback:

    http://blogs.iis.net/jboch/archive/2009/02/24/beta-release-of-smooth-streaming-now-available.aspx

  • 02-26-2009, 9:56 AM In reply to

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    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    I'm trying to get this to work. How can I play a mediafile when I have the full path 'http://www.mycomain.com/myfile.ism'. In other words how should I reference a file when the webserver and mediaserver are on different machines? The sample works as expected but I need to be able to play files from different servers.

     

  • 02-26-2009, 1:33 PM In reply to

    Re: IIS Smooth Streaming Feedback Thread

    With smooth streaming, your media server could just be your web server since it's running on IIS7. The .ism file needs to be co-located with the media files it references. Actually a better way to think of it is that .ism file is part of the "media presentation" which contains manifest files and the video files.

    Thanks,

    -Sam
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