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Last post 03-05-2008 9:08 PM by robmcm. 4 replies.

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  • 02-28-2008, 9:27 AM

    • daflookie
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    How to live without FPSE (Frontpage Server Extensions) in IIS7?

    My company manages a few hundred web apps, some large where we have a complete dev to staging to production environment.  However, the majority of our sites are smaller where live editing is the most economical and practical choice (a small site to me is less then a 50 pages or so, and a total of less then 200 resources such as images, etc).  Almost all of our projects run in an ASP.NET 2.0 environment.

    Like many things in life, it seems to me that FPSE still falls into the "can't live with em, can't live without em" category.  My sys admins hate them, and my designer/content/developer folks love them because it's so much faster then FTP when working in a live edit mode (we use FPSE just for authoring - no webbots, etc).  MS has been trying to bury FPSE for a couple of years now, but yet it keeps coming back into the mix.

    It's widely noted around the web and in these forums that the built-in FTP features in Visual Web Developer, Visual Studio 2005/2008 and Microsoft Expression is many times slower when working in a live edit mode compared to FPSE.  The performance comparison gets worse when you add in common features beyond strictly publishing like search and sync.

    I would love to let FPSE go, but I can't seem to find a good fit for live, in place editing when using MS web development tools.  Is WEBDAV in IIS7 the web authoring mechanism of the future?  From a performance standpoint does anyone have any comparisons or success stories when comparing FTP, FPSE and WEBDAV authoring modes in an IDE for actions like search, sync and publish?

    If not WEBDAV is there a setup that I may be missing if I want to stop using FPSE but still need efficient live editing capabilities?

  • 02-28-2008, 9:33 AM In reply to

    Re: How to live without FPSE (Frontpage Server Extensions) in IIS7?

    My challenge would be to not edit live.  But if you must, WebDAV or FPSE are sometimes your only options, if you can't do direct file access over a VPN or something.

    Jeff

    Look for Wrox's new book Professional IIS 7 in your local bookstore, or order now at Amazon.com
  • 02-28-2008, 9:34 AM In reply to

    Re: How to live without FPSE (Frontpage Server Extensions) in IIS7?

    I should add that this really isn't an IIS issue, it's a Visual Studio issue.  WebDAV works a lot better now, but still isn't what many organizations want.  Though it does make the most sense for replacing FPSE.

    Jeff

    Look for Wrox's new book Professional IIS 7 in your local bookstore, or order now at Amazon.com
  • 02-28-2008, 9:46 AM In reply to

    • daflookie
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    Re: How to live without FPSE (Frontpage Server Extensions) in IIS7?

    Jeff,

    Thanks for the initial thoughts.  For small sites live editing seems most appropriate to me, and especially appropriate to my client's budget as the bottom line is other mechanisms take more time and are uneccesary in small projects.  We are comfortable with web deployment scenarios in medium to large projects and do not run FPSE on those sites.

    When you say WEBDAV works better is this coming from experience, e.g. do you have any measures compared to FPSE in terms of speed?

    FYI we do have a VPN link and have tried the file based webs option, but it's pretty slow too (the speed of our VPN link may not be helping).

  • 03-05-2008, 9:08 PM In reply to

    • robmcm
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    Re: How to live without FPSE (Frontpage Server Extensions) in IIS7?

    There are many things that WebDAV does better in IIS 7 - it has its own configuration settings and authoring rules, it's configurable per-site, better integration into IIS, etc. You can see the following documents for more about that:

    That said, I wrote a document that details how to migrate FPSE Sites to WebDAV at the following URL:

    I hope this helps. ;-]

    Robert McMurray
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